is hamas, which has been very problematic obviously or a better scenario? >> it can be any of those things, martha, that is why i think our engagement, our presence on the ground diplomatically is so important. to understand what is going on, each country, each society is different and to help moderates, prodemocracy elements shape events, not let them runoff on their own. it could be the russian revolution, it could be the french revolution, which after a pretty depressing start obviouslobvious turned out pretty well. martha: are you frustrated that we are not hearing more from hillary clinton and president obama? >> i think that the message we need to hear is we've got to engage here, these outcomes are not preordained, we can influence them but we've got to be there to do it. martha: thank you so much, ambassador crocker, it's always good to have you with us. >> thank you.